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		<title>A&amp;A: Budget committee meets behind closed doors</title>
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Q: Our county budget committee meets behind closed doors and keeps no written records of meetings. County staff says it’s OK because the budget committee is an ad hoc committee. They say they can designate ANY committee as an ad hoc committee and meet behind closed doors. A: Government Code section 54952(b) contains the definition [...]]]></description>
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<p>Q: Our county budget committee meets behind closed doors and keeps no written records of meetings. County staff says it’s OK because the budget committee is an ad hoc committee. They say they can designate ANY committee as an ad hoc committee and meet behind closed doors.</p>
<p><strong>A: </strong>Government Code section 54952(b) contains the definition of agencies that are covered by the Brown Act:</p>
<p>&#8220;A commission, committee, board or other body of a local agency, whether permanent or temporary, decision-making or advisory, created by charter, ordinance , resolution  or formal action  of a legislative body.</p>
<p>However, advisory committees, composed solely of the members of the legislative body that are less than a quorum of the legislative body are not legislative bodies, except that standing committees  of a legislative body, irrespective of their composition,which have a continuing subject matter jurisdiction, or a meeting schedule  fixed by charter, ordinance or formal action of a legislative body are legislative bodies for the purposes of this chapter.&#8221;</p>
<p>The less-than-quorum-committees that are not the &#8220;standing committees&#8221; are often called &#8220;ad hoc committees.&#8221;</p>
<p>It can often be quite difficult to distinguish between standing committees and ad hoc committees.  But there is some guidance:</p>
<blockquote><p>1. Method of creation:  How was the committee created.  If it was created by &#8220;formal action,&#8221; it is subject to the Brown Act. A covered board thus directing a sub-quorum of its members to meet with others will usually satisfy that requirement. Joiner v. City of Sebastopol, 125 Cal. App. 3d 799 (1981).</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>2. Make-up of the committee:  If the committee is wholly composed of members of a covered body, then it may not be a standing committee.  However, if it has outside members, it necessarily be a standing committee.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>3. Meeting schedule: if its meeting schedule is regular and fixed by a covered board, then the committee will be a standing committee.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>4. Scope of authority: The California Attorney General has written (at 79 Ops. Cal. Atty.Gen 69 (1996)) that &#8220;standing committee&#8221; is commonly defined as &#8220;a committee to consider subjects of a particular class arising during a stated period.&#8221; &#8220;Subject matter&#8221; as used above mean &#8220;matter presented for authority&#8221; and &#8220;jurisdiction&#8221; means &#8220;power, right or authority to hear a cause.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Importantly, it does not matter what the committee or the agency creating it has labeled it.  The test is one of substance and function, not form. So an agency does not have the power to effectively designate a committee as an ad hoc committee if it the committee is functioning as a standing committee.</p>
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		<title>Santa Clarita: Community alleges open meeting violation in vote on public library</title>
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A group of library workers and patrons in Santa Clarita has demanded that the City Council rescind its vote on withdrawing from the Los Angeles County Library System and allow public discussions of the withdrawal. -db The Santa Clarita Valley Signal September 28, 2010 By Natalie Everett Library patrons and workers sent the city of [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong><em>A group of library workers and patrons in Santa Clarita has demanded that the City Council rescind its vote on withdrawing from the Los Angeles County Library System and allow public discussions of the withdrawal. -db</em></strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.the-signal.com/section/36/article/34189/" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.the-signal.com/section/36/article/34189/?referer=');">The Santa Clarita Valley Signal</a><br />
September 28, 2010<br />
<strong> By Natalie Everett</strong></p>
<p>Library patrons and workers sent the city of Santa Clarita a letter Tuesday demanding that the City Council take back its vote on withdrawing from the Los Angeles County Library System and hold three public hearings on the matter.</p>
<p>The letter accuses Santa Clarita City Council members of violating open-meeting laws and states that if the city doesn’t agree to the group’s terms, a lawsuit may follow.</p>
<p>“If you fail to cure or correct as demanded, such inaction may leave us no recourse but to seek a judicial invalidation of the challenged action,” according to the letter signed by 10 residents, one librarian and one representative of the library workers’ union.</p>
<p>The latter says the city has 30 days to respond. It alleges that the City Council circumvented California’s open-meeting law, the Ralph M. Brown Act, which requires elected officials to discuss public matters publicly before making decisions.</p>
<p>The letter provides no specifics on alleged Brown Act violations.</p>
<p>It alleges the city’s ad hoc library committee members, Councilwomen Laurie Ender and Marsha McLean, conducted a series of meetings behind closed doors that decided the library issue before the vote was taken Aug. 24.</p>
<p>However, since only two City Council members were on the ad hoc committee, there was no violation of the Brown Act, open-meeting-law experts say.</p>
<p>Public opposition</p>
<p>About 200 people showed up during the August City Council meeting at which the council decided the library issue, most in opposition to the city’s move to withdraw.</p>
<p>City officials say seceding from the county system would shield Santa Clarita’s three libraries from reduced hours and services as the county’s budget is increasingly tightened.</p>
<p>After three hours of testimony in support of the county library system from people young and old, the council voted 4-1 to take its three libraries away from the county and contract with the private Maryland-based library-management firm Library Systems &amp; Services, or LSSI.</p>
<p>City officials said the move would save $400,000 a year, letting them buy more books and keep the libraries open longer.</p>
<p>Many outspoken library patrons donned “I Love L.A. County Libraries” T-shirts passed out by the Service Employees International Union Local 721, which represents county library employees.</p>
<p>Ender had requested the City Council consider the library takeover in July, during its last meeting before a six-week break.</p>
<p>The council reconvened Aug. 24.</p>
<p>Ad hoc committee formed</p>
<p>Terry Francke, executive director of a nonprofit open-government advocacy group, sympathized with the county library backers.</p>
<p>“If this committee was not the result of a public, on-the-record appointment and assignment, but sort of sprang up from no one knows where and no one knows when, then I can certainly understand the level of suspicion that might have led people to conclude that, ‘Well, if this was going on behind the scenes, what would prevent roping in a third or fourth member (into the discussion)?’”</p>
<p>While the committee was formed during a January 2008 City Council meeting, one of its original members, then-Councilman TimBen Boydston, said its original purpose was to discuss the new Newhall Library.</p>
<p>The committee’s original members were Boydston and McLean. Boydston said the committee met “once, maybe twice” during his tenure.</p>
<p>“It was mostly &#8230; to see if we could get the county to help get funding to help build Newhall Library,” Boydston said. “That was the main thrust. There was never any discussion of privatizing the libraries.”</p>
<p>Boydston recalled that city staff was unhappy with the county’s level of interest in Santa Clarita’s libraries.</p>
<p>“The city manager (Ken Pulskamp) didn’t feel that the county was paying enough money to support the library system because of the fact that they’re collecting taxes from all over the county,” Boydston said. “They just didn’t feel like they were getting enough revenue from the county.</p>
<p>“There was no specific talk about pulling out of the system or anything like that.”</p>
<p>Boydston’s appointed term on the council ended in April 2008 when Laurie Ender won a seat on the council. Ender then joined McLean on the library committee.</p>
<p>Brown Act violation alleged</p>
<p>City Attorney Carl Newton said the letter didn’t include any facts proving the Brown Act had been violated.</p>
<p>“They don’t say when, how or who did the violation,” Newton said. “I don’t see how we can respond to this.”</p>
<p>Newton said that in order for the Brown Act to have been violated, a majority of the council must have engaged in serial meetings. The ad hoc committee is just two council members, and is therefore not a law-breaking quorum, Newton said.</p>
<p>“We certainly have no knowledge that anything of that sort has occurred at all,” Newton said. “I’m not aware of any evidence that they’ve reached a consensus.”</p>
<p>Francke, who heads the Californians Aware advocacy group, said ad hoc committees are meant to be short-term arrangements that look for a practical solution to a single problem.</p>
<p>That’s why the Legislature allowed for these committees to work without being “hyper-formalized,” he said.</p>
<p>Francke said there generally aren’t a lot of complaints over ad hoc committees flying under the open-meeting radar.</p>
<p>“Once in a while, there’s a ridiculous extreme, with a sub-quorum panel assigned to look at a very complicated problem over a year or more,” he said. “And then it’s no longer a short-term assignment.”</p>
<p>That’s when people begin to wonder why they’re not in on the conversation, Francke said.</p>
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		<title>Ukiah: Supervisors consider appointing ad-hoc committee on retiree health insurance</title>
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The County Board of Supervisors is considering appointing an ad-hoc committee to consider ways to preserve health benefits for retirees but some supervisors think the issue is too important to discuss  behind closed doors. -DB The Ukiah Daily Journal January 27, 2010 By Tiffany Revelle Conflict about forming an ad-hoc committee to study available choices [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong><em>The County Board of Supervisors is considering appointing an ad-hoc committee to consider ways to preserve health benefits for retirees but some supervisors think the issue is too important to discuss  behind closed doors. -DB </em></strong></p>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><strong>By Tiffany Revelle</strong></p>
<p>Conflict about forming an ad-hoc committee to study available choices was the sticking point in a Tuesday debate about how to preserve health benefits for county retirees.</p>
<p>Supervisor John McCowen&#8217;s motion to form an ad-hoc committee failed in a 2-2 vote, with Supervisors Carre Brown and John Pinches opposed, and Supervisor David Colfax absent.</p>
<p>&#8220;An ad-hoc committee can meet at any time without &#8230; transparency to the public, retirees and fellow supervisors,&#8221; Chairwoman Brown said. &#8220;I strongly believe, given the times that we&#8217;re in and the poor financial condition of the county, that it all should be public discussion and everyone should hear the same information, and it gives everyone the opportunity to participate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pinches concurred, saying he wasn&#8217;t happy with the ad-hoc committee process. Two speakers also expressed skepticism about county ad-hoc committees during the public input portion of the debate.</p>
<p>McCowen said ad-hoc committees only make recommendations, and any decision based on those recommendations is made in a public meeting subject to the Brown Act, which says the public&#8217;s business must be discussed in public.</p>
<p>&#8220;The result of not having an ad-hoc might in effect be that we have a board that is less well-informed, that has no one who has directly participated in the discussions; no one has the comprehensive background when it comes to the board, and it becomes much more of a staff-driven process, who has no Brown Act consideration and can meet as many times as they want among themselves and develop the programs that they want, so to me there is clearly a public benefit to having a couple of board members directly involved,&#8221; McCowen said.</p>
<p>McCowen went on to say ad-hoc committees can explore a more full range of options, because in public meetings, &#8220;there&#8217;s less willingness to just brainstorm things and throw stuff out, and it can actually restrict the conversation and the ability to explore different options.&#8221;</p>
<p>The board will reconsider forming an ad-hoc committee next Tuesday, when Colfax is expected back. The committee would review health plans available as the county considers switching health insurance providers, according to Bordan Darm, from the Sacramento consulting firm Mercer.</p>
<p>The board also voted 4-0 to accept an update and approve a proposed work plan for exploring ways to make the county&#8217;s health plan for retirees sustainable.</p>
<p>The insurance reserve that funds retirees&#8217; health care is dwindling because of decreasing investment earnings and rising health care costs, according to an update from county staff and Darm.</p>
<p>&#8220;The status of the retiree health insurance reserve is precarious, with the depletion of the reserve expected in early 2011 or sooner, depending on claims experienced in the coming months,&#8221; Human Resources Director Teresia Haase said during the report.</p>
<p>Darm said he asked seven major health insurance carriers for quotes to provide insurance to the county&#8217;s retirees, both individually and as a group. He got two quotes, only for Medicare-eligible retirees.</p>
<p>&#8220;Basically, the consensus that we got back from the marketplace was there is not a fully-insured option available for those that are non-Medicare-eligible,&#8221; Darm said. &#8220;We&#8217;d have to look at some form of self-funding option for the early retirees.&#8221;</p>
<p>The quotes from United Health Care and Aetna for a supplemental program to Medicare could result in savings for the county, according to Darm. He said the two companies will go through an interview process to ensure the plans and their costs are in the county&#8217;s best interest.</p>
<p>The board also approved a request to reinstate the county Executive Office&#8217;s Retiree Health Benefits Committee, which hasn&#8217;t met since July 2008.</p>
<p>Recommendations are expected in April, and implementation possibly in January 2011. A request for bids will go out, with changes to be proposed in September and possible changes to be implemented in January 2011.</p>
<p>Copyright 2010 Ukiah Daily Journal</p></div>
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With 14 ad hoc committees, one four years old, the Highland City Council is needlessly conducting vast amounts of the people&#8217;s business behind closed doors, says an editorial in the Highland Community News. -DB Highland Community News Editorial December 17, 2009 Ad hoc committees can serve a very useful purpose. Operating out of public view, they [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong><em>With 14 ad hoc committees, one four years old, the Highland City Council is needlessly conducting vast amounts of the people&#8217;s business behind closed doors, says an editorial in the Highland Community News. -DB </em></strong></p>
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Editorial<br />
December 17, 2009</p>
<p>Ad hoc committees can serve a very useful purpose.</p>
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<p>Operating out of public view, they can sometimes work out difficult and challenging problems meeting one-on-one with those involved in controversial items.</p>
<p>Ad hoc committees are not subject to the Brown Act and are not open to the press and public. They are “limited to a single purpose, are not perpetual, and to be dissolved once their specific task is completed,” according to a city of Highland report to the City Council.</p>
<p>That report also listed 14 ad hoc committees, one (San Manuel Planning) dating back to 2004.</p>
<p>The Open Space EHR/Forestry committee is four years old, Mobile Home Rent Control Committee 2 1/2 years old; five others over a year old.</p>
<p>First of all, we suggest that the city’s ad hoc committees should be fewer and more narrowly focused. A subject as wide as “San Manuel Planning” should be a permanent and public committee, for example. If there is a specific issue to be resolved with the Indians, that would be one matter. There will always be need for communication and cooperation with the Reservation, but to broaden it to “San Manuel Planning” covers too much territory and does require a standing committee.</p>
<p>That suggestion includes most of the city’s ad hoc committees.</p>
<p>The second issue is holding meetings out of the public view.</p>
<p>The Sign Review Committee, for example would include discussion that much of the public should know about and include public consideration. Not only that, but the committee includes members of the City Council, Planning Commission and Chamber of Commerce. It would be interesting to know how each stands on the sign ordinance.</p>
<p>Another, the “Orange County Property,” is dealing with development of the huge section of property between Seven Oaks Dam and Yucaipa.</p>
<p>Talk about a general subject!</p>
<p>We believe that the public’s business should be conducted in public with very few exceptions, and those exceptions deserve thoughtful and focused decisions by the mayor, who appoints ad hoc committees.</p>
<p>We are not alleging any wrongdoing; but there is the legal option against the right thing to do. We prefer the latter.</p>
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